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State, victims clash over whereabouts of notorious criminals

Colorado is hiding inmates; families of victims want to know where they are

Anastasiya Bolton, Kevin Vaughan

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Editor's note: Governor John Hickenlooper did speak to 9Wants to Know after this story aired. His response will be aired Monday night at 9 and 10 p.m. on 9NEWS.

Colorado prison officials have transferred scores of killers and rapists to other states and refused to tell victims and their families where they are -- despite a constitutional amendment and state law that were designed to guarantee those answers, a 9Wants to Know investigation found.

In 1993, Gov. Roy Romer signs the Victim Rights Act into law.

Instead, state Department of Corrections officials and Gov. John Hickenlooper have repeatedly refused to disclose the whereabouts of inmates to victims.

The result: more than 100 Colorado inmates -- including some of the state’s most notorious killers -- are being held in what is essentially now a secret prison system.

The findings of our 9Wants to Know investigation into the system frustrated a former legislator who helped write the Victim Rights Act, passed by Colorado voters in 1992 and codified into state law the next year.

“I do not understand how a bureaucratic decision can override a victim’s constitutional rights,” said Jeanne Faatz, a longtime Republican legislator who was the prime sponsor of the victim rights law.

Jeanne Faatz is a longtime Republican legislator who was the prime sponsor of the victim rights law.

Legal experts disagree on whether the law clearly entitles victims to know where an inmate is serving time.

But 9Wants to Know found numerous questions surrounding the secret prisoner swap and the rights of victims:

  • Department of Corrections officials have contended repeatedly that they don’t have to disclose the whereabouts of the inmates because the transfers are “temporary.” However, 9Wants to Know’s investigation found that 23 of these inmates have been held out of state for more than a decade while one Colorado killer has been behind bars in another state since 1980.
  • In one instance, the murder of a young woman in Colorado Springs, the state’s decision not to release information about the secret locations of prisoners has sparked a huge inconsistency. One of her killers has been transferred out of state; the other hasn’t. Information about the inmate held in Colorado is available on the corrections department’s website -- but the victim’s father has been rebuffed in his efforts to find out where the other killer is being held.
  • Hickenlooper has argued that Colorado can’t release the whereabouts of the prisoners because it’s not allowed by the agreement with other states that governs the Interstate Corrections Compact. But 9Wants to Know found that numerous other states in the program tell the victims the whereabouts of inmates they transfer. In some cases, victims in Arizona are even consulted before prisoners are transferred.

“They’re just lying, the Department of Corrections is lying,” said Rich Orman, one of the prosecutors of the Aurora theater shooter. “In fact, according to their definition of any prisoner being held anywhere in DOC for any placement, it’s always temporary. If they were right, they would never have to notify of any movement anywhere for any purpose.”

22-year-old Jacine Gielinski was murdered in 1997.

And on top of all that, there’s this reality: The families of prisoners in the secret system get to know where they are.

In the Colorado Springs case, Lucas Salmon helped kidnap, rape and murder 22-year-old Jacine Gielinski in 1997. His family has always known which prison he’s in. Gielinski’s dad, Bob Luiszer doesn’t.

Salmon’s brother told 9Wants to Know the family can write, visit and email him.

“Not to be able to communicate with him in some ways would be a relief, to know that it’s basically over, it’s done,” Salmon’s brother said. He asked 9Wants to Know not to name him, since he’s unwillingly related to a killer.

“But we still get to communicate with him is honestly something that we value, we are glad for it,” Salmon’s brother said. “It’s a bit of a paradox.”

“Seems like they (inmates) have more rights,” Luiszer said. “Ours kind of seem to get less. We certainly want to know. It’s kind of a peace of mind to know where they are at.”

Over a 10-month period, 9Wants to Know repeatedly asked Hickenlooper and DOC Director Rick Raemisch for on-camera interviews to discuss the state’s interpretation of the Victim Rights Act and the use of the prisoner swap. Both have declined. 9NEWS was able to ask the Governor limited questions on the subject during other scheduled interviews.

“We’re not doing this because we think it’s fun,” Hickenlooper said in January of this year. “These are people’s lives. Our prison guards, they’ve got families and wives and we take it very seriously to keep them safe.”

That reasoning didn’t wash with George Brauchler, the district attorney for Arapahoe, Douglas, Elbert and Lincoln counties who prosecuted the Aurora theater killer. Brauchler is also running for the Republican nomination to replace Hickenlooper in 2018. Hickenlooper is term-limited and can’t run for a third term. 9Wants to Know interviewed Brauchler months before he announced he was running for governor.

“These statutes say that victims, for whatever reason they choose -- largely peace of mind -- get to ask their government about where people who committed crimes against them or their loved ones are housed,” Brauchler told 9Wants to Know. “This Department of Corrections has gone out of its way to say we don’t care -- our interests trump your interests, and if the law doesn’t support it, we’re going to pretend the law doesn’t apply.”